This is the one advantage, that in the future supposedly you could get a discount to buy the VST/AU version of Collision etc.Īnyway the main advantage IMO is that you can pick up the suite for dirt cheap compared to Komplete or Artura's bundle, and the bugs are certain to be worked out eventually, unlike third party plug ins.The big Neo FM knob usually (see below) controls the amount of modulation brought to bear on the carrier by the modulator, and is hardwired to follow Envelope 1 with its own amount setting. Most of Live's instruments are AAS plug ins, and have extra features in the non embedded versions. I paid to use them, but I want them in Live I have to jump through major hoops to get their sound, and theoretically Live's embedded instruments are setting me up for the same thing if I move on. I miss Digital Performer's distortion, and filter FX, Logic's Sculpture and Convolution Reverb etc. I've switched twice before, and I sometimes sleep around with Logic to this day.Įmbedded instruments do one thing that really sucks, they create a slash and burn situation where you have to choose to rarely if ever use that plug in if you switch for whatever reason. I am liking Collision and Corpus too though, so far. I haven't been as impressed yet as some others by the new 'world class content' although to be fair, they only included a smalll portion of it in the beta compared to what will come in the official release. The Live Suite gives you a pretty wide palette. Analog for me is not as strong a VA as other 3rd party VSTS, such as Sylenth, Massive, Zebra or Analog Factory etc, but it is usable and more so than freeware. With Live having Racks, this is easy to do, but again, CPU considerations come into it. The other stand out synth in terms of being great in it's field is Electric, which is an awesome EP vst and Tension is also nice, but it's actual stock sounds of strings and violins only sound convincing if you layer them with samples IMHO. But with FM8, Blue, Sytrus, etc out there already, probably best not to waste resources and it's nice to have it to ourselves. Operator is definately the stand out synth for me, that if Ableton released it as a VST, could sell well to users of other platforms.
Any DAW bundled synths are not usually as good as 3rd party synths, but what you do get is pretty good overall, although, as glitchrock mentioned, curiously, given they are integrated, some of the Suite instruments are a bit heavy on the CPU side of things. Over all not much advantage to having them instead of their AAS counterparts, except that it's much cheaper to buy the suite than buy those separately.ĭepends on your needs. Use a lot of cpu but the sounds are pretty good imo. I've actually contemplated setting up a template in FM8 for hardware control to mimic operators architecture.Īll the rest - Great physical modeling sounds. I have FM8 which takes less cpu and sounds amazing, but I still like operator for it's layout and structure. Operator - A very unique sounding FM synth and easy to program. And in this case, integration actually means something, because you can drag and drop samples from your set into. Though I have kontakt, which is more powerful, has a great library and great effects, I like sampler for it's integration in Live. Sampler - I like the simplicity of the interface. Most plug-ins I have beat the suite instruments on cpu.įor me, all the different suite instrument have different reasons for being valuable in addition to plug-ins. However, I do like Automat.įunny, this is my main gripe with the suite instruments. In fact, the only plugin I use regularly is Izotope Ozone 3. I'm primarily a hardware guy but when I need to I prefer to use the built-in instruments in Live. Earsmack wrote:CPU usage is my main gripe with VSTs.
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